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lmaooo not bryke themselves saying katara loves aang like a babysitter or little brother. it's so obvious in the show that katara views aang like that most of the time.
that's why aang gets so offended when it gets referenced by the ember island players and katara is confused about starting a romantic relationship with aang in the same episode. yet the fandom wants to act like you're insane if you think katara mothered aang and they had a sibling dynamic for most of the series. they really just act like you pulled it out of your ass even though both the text and authorial intent are there.
meanwhile they continuously insist "zutara is siblings coded" when there's nothing in the series to imply that view and bryke have never described their relationship like that. plus, bryke having being so salty towards zutara's popularity means we never will get to see zuko and katara have meaningful interactions in the franchise ever again anyway.
it's so frustrating how katara becoming a couple with aang came at the cost of destroying her relationships with jet, haru, and zuko. basically any guy around her age that wasn't her brother would be sabotaged (with jet suffering it the worst) because they would all be deemed "threats" to kataang.
LMAO I STILL FIND IT FUNNYš
Bryke defenders get pissy when you point out that them being cis straight white men in the 2000s would obviously correlate to the show's flaws. But this is literally one of the reasons why. No woman wants to be in a relationship with someone she takes care of and views like a little brother. They said this while trying to defend Kataang. I'd almost feel bad if every Kataang shipper I met wasn't exceedingly obnoxious.
Some of them even try to compare her relationship with Aang to her relationship with Sokka. But they're completely missing that a) she grew up with Sokka, b) Sokka treated her like crap while Aang was sweet, and c) Aang was in great emotional pain so of course she was nicer to him.
I don't mind thinking of Zutara as sibling-like, unless you're only doing that to shut down Zutara. I love their platonic relationship, it's one of my favorites in the show.
I will always be mad about Haru, but I'll always be even more livid about Jet. The way Bryke treated him was gross. Especially when Aang threw his name out to shut down Katara's feelings despite the fact that he died helping them. Aang deserves more shit for this idc
#anti kataang#anti kataang shippers#katara deserved better#zutara friendly#anti bryke#haru deserved better#jet deserved better#anon ask
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JUSTICE FOR HARU
Justice for Haru!
The pornstache must die.
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Katara and Mutuality in Relationships
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There are lots of conflicting opinions about which characters Katara felt attraction towards, which characters she didnāt, and how long she felt that attraction. I see in most cases, people point to quick clips of her faintly blushing or kissing another character on the cheek as evidence, but I think these kind of takes miss the nuance of the purpose attraction serves in a story.
Most importantly, I see these characters treated as if they are actually people capable of making their own decisions. Itās important to remember that these are fictional characters. They donāt make their own choices; the writers make their choices for them for the purpose of telling a story. From that standpoint, itās more valuable to examine how a characterās story and narrative themes tie into their relationships with other characters. Animators can shove in a kiss or a blush wherever they want, but itās harder to demonstrate through storytelling how and why two characters might feel attraction towards one another, and how a relationship between them would develop both characters and contribute to the overarching themes of the story.
In other words, when discussing which characters Katara is āattractedā to, Iām discussing which relationships and actions within the narrative build on her established story and arc. Romance is always integrated into a story for a reason, and considering that reason is important.
Unfortunately, ATLA is very much a product of its time in this way. Itās easy to see what romance adds to the arcs of the male charactersābut not so much with the female characters. All three canon relationships (kataang, sukka, and maiko) follow this trend to some degree. The primary purpose of the woman in this narrative is to act as a prize for the man for performing some good deed. Once theyāre together, she ceases having her own motivations and becomes an extension of the male character sheās dating. This is pretty blatant with Sukiāshe barely had a personality in that later seasons; she is there to be Sokkaās girlfriend. Similarly, Katara becomes a completely different characterāsheās even animated differentlyāwhen the narrative pushes her into romantic scenes with Aang. Her character is flattened.
So what is Kataraās arc, and how do the romantic interactions she has throughout the series contribute to this?
Well, that could be a whole other essay itself, but to put it simply, Kataraās arc is one of a young girl devastated by grief at a young age clinging to hope that she has the power to fight and change the world for the better. Which she does as she gains power and confidence throughout the seriesāculminating in her defeating Azula in the finale.
But the part I want to focus on here is how Katara connects with other characters. She connects with them over shared experiences of grief and loss.
Take Haru, for instance.
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Haru: After the attack, they rounded up my father and every other earthbender, and took them away. We haven't seen them since.
Katara: So that's why you hide your earthbending.
Haru: Yeah. Problem isā¦the only way I can feel close to my father now is when I practice my bending. He taught me everything I know.
Katara: See this necklace? My mother gave it to me.
Haru: Itās beautiful.
Katara: I lost my mother in a Fire Nation raid. This necklace is all I have left of her.
Haru: Itās not enough, is it?
Katara: No.
This isnāt just a throwaway moment; itās an important character moment that leads up to growth and the progression of Kataraās overall story, both in this individual episode and in the whole series.
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Katara finds her power in the connections sheās able to make with other characters. Itās a powerful driving force for her that makes her a strong character even before her bending abilities develop. Imprisoned was such an important episode to establish who Katara is and what her power is, and adds so much to her arc.
But there is one line in particular from the above exchange that also stands out: Haru says āitās not enough, is it?ā and Katara agrees. Even this early in the series, weāre establishing the fact that despite her drive and hopeful outlook, Katara feels deeply hurt, she feels a deep sense of loss that she opens up about to other characters in moments like these. But unlike Haruā¦Katara canāt go rescue her mother. Her mother is dead, and we see her grapple with that grief throughout the series.
Another character she reaches out to like this is Jet.
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Jet: Longshot over there? His town got burned down by the Fire Nation. And we found The Duke trying to steal our food. I don't think he ever really had a home.
Katara: What about you?
Jet: The Fire Nation killed my parents. I was only eight years old. That day changed me forever.
Katara: Sokka and I lost our mother to the Fire Nation.
Jet: Iām so sorry, Katara.
Another important note about Jet is that there are explicit romantic feelings from Katara in this episode. Again, Katara empathizes with another character through a shared sense of loss. Sadly, in this case, Jet manipulated her feelings and tricked her into helping in his plot to flood the villageā¦but those feelings were undeniably there.
That was the tragedy in this episode, but it also gives the audience so much information about Katara as a character: what motivates her, and what she wants. Katara is established as a character who wants someone who will connect with her and empathize with her over her lossāher greatest sense of trauma. She wants to help others but also receive support in return. The reason why she was smitten with Jet, beyond just initial attraction, is because he gave her a sense of that before Katara realized his true motivations.
A lot of people make the claim that Aang is good for Katara because he also feels a sense of great loss and trauma. And while on paper thatās trueā¦does he really demonstrate that? I just gave two examples of characters Katara connected with this way, and both responded with deep empathy to what she said. Very early on in the showāthe third episodeāKatara attempts to connect with Aang the same way. How does he respond?
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Katara: Aang, before we get to the temple, I want to talk to you about the airbenders.
Aang: What about 'em?
Katara: Well, I just want you to be prepared for what you might see. The Fire Nation is ruthless. They killed my mother, and they could have done the same to your people.
Aang: Just because no one has seen an airbender, doesn't mean the Fire Nation killed them all. They probably escaped!
Just compare this exchange to Haru and Jet. No effort to empathize, not even a āsorry for your lossā or anything. Itās a stark contrast, and the reason for that is because this narrative entirely centers Aang. Kataraās narrative always seems to be secondary to his when theyāre togetherāwhich is exactly my point when I say this relationship has a fundamental lack of mutuality. Itās built that way from the beginning of the series. It does not add to Kataraās arc nor establish what about this dynamic would attract her.
And, look, before someone jumps down my throat about thisā¦Iām not saying Aang is a horrible person for this response. I think itās a sign that heās immature and has a fundamentally different approach to problems than Katara. Katara is a character who has been forced to take on responsibilities beyond her years due to being a child of a war-torn world. Aangās approach to problems is avoidance while Katara never had that luxury. It doesnāt mesh well.
This is all in Book 1. I honestly could have gotten on board with Kataang if the series meaningfully addressed these issuesā¦but it didnāt. In fact, they actually got worse in some ways.
Back to Kataraās mother. Weāve established that this is a core part of Kataraās character and like in the scene with Haru, she indicates that this is an unresolved issue that pains her. But then, in Book 3, Katara actually does get a chance to confront this pain.
This would have been a powerful moment. Surely the character who is meant to be her partner, her equal, would have been there for her. Surely he would have understood and supported her, fulfilling her narrative and adding to her story.
But Aang didnāt do that. I wonāt go into details because there are a million analyses out there on The Southern Raiders, but Aangās response to Katara was the opposite of understanding. He got angry with her, insinuated that she was a monster for wanting revenge, and tried to dictate her behavior according to his own moral values. And importantly, from a narrative standpoint, he did not go with Katara. One of the most important events in her arc, and Aang didnāt support herāhe actually tried stopping her. He didnāt contribute to her growth and development.
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Katara: But I didnāt forgive him. Iāll never forgive him.
Even at the end of the episode, Aang clearly doesnāt understand at all what Katara is feeling. This line demonstrates it perfectly. He thinks she forgave him when that wasnāt the case at allā¦but of course, he didnāt even accompany her, so he didnāt see what actually took place. His worldview is fundamentally different from hers, and heās consistently too rigid in his morality and immature to center Kataraās feelings.
Throughout Kataraās whole arc, her most significant character moments, Aangās character just doesnāt come through the way Kataraās constantly does for him. Their narrative lacks mutuality. When Katara and Aang are together, she becomes an accessory to him. The ending scene is a perfect demonstration of this.
Now, to address the elephant in the room.
Which character does actually add to Kataraās narrative and support her growth as a character?
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Correct! I just talked about how important The Southern Raiders is to Kataraās character and story, how itās a chance for her to finally address the grief sheās been carrying since Book 1. And who stood by her side throughout this pivotal moment? RightāZuko did.
You can talk all you want about how heās a ācolonizerā while Aangās people suffered genocide, but youāre forgetting that āshow, donāt tellā is one of the most basic aspects of storytelling. The fact is, despite how it looks on paper, Zuko was the one there for Katara at her critical moments. Zuko empathized with Katara more than Aang ever didāas demonstrated in this episode. Zuko never once brought up his own cultural values. Zuko never once told Katara what to do. Zukoās position was that Katara should be the one to decide, and that he would support any choice she made. He supported her decision to spare Yon Rha, but he would have also supported her if she decided to kill him. I actually found this episode to be a satisfying reversal to what is typically seen in TVāfor once, the female character is centered while her male counterpart takes the backseat and becomes a supporting role to her narrative.
Even before this, Zuko is shown to empathize with Katara.
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Zuko: Iām sorry. Thatās something we have in common.
I think what gets me about this scene is the fact that heās still Kataraās enemy, and she was just yelling about how she hates him and his people. But despite that, Zuko still empathizes with Katara. She is fundamentally human to him, and he expresses that to her in a way that allows them to connect. Zuko stands to gain nothing from this. Itās true that Azula entered the picture and twisted things aroundābut in this moment, Zukoās compassion is genuine. His instinct was to respond to her grief with empathy, just like she consistently does for other characters.
And finally, how else does Zuko add to Kataraās arc?
I donāt think there is any more perfect of an example than the finale itselfāthe culmination of the arcs and development of all characters.
Zuko and Katara fight together. In a heartbeat, Zuko asks Katara to fight by his side against Azula, because he trusts her strength. Sheās his equalāboth in his mind, and in a narrative sense.
Then, this:
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Both of their roles are so critical in this fight. They both save each other. The scene has such raw emotion to it. These characters were together at the conclusion of their respective arcs for a reason.
This is the perfect conclusion to Kataraās arc. She just played a critical role in ending the war that has caused her trauma her whole life. She just demonstrated her mastery of waterbending (another thing sheās dreamed of throughout the series) by defeating the worldās most powerful firebender during Sozinās Comet. Even though she had help as all characters do, these are victories that belong to her and demonstrate the growth and power of her character. And to top it all off? She was able to save Zukoās life. She didnāt have to endure the pain of feeling helpless to do anything while someone else died for her; this time, she had an active role, she changed her fate, and she prevailed. Zuko plays an important role in Kataraās story without dominating it. They perfectly represent mutuality. They add to each otherļæ½ļæ½s stories. Their narratives become stronger when theyāre together, without one diminishing or sidelining the other.
So, from that standpoint, thatās why I always see the attraction between Zuko and Katara and why I see it lacking between Aang and Katara. Zuko and Kataraās story doesnāt need some cheap little throwaway moments to shine. Itās integral to both charactersā stories. We are shown not told of the way these characters feel about each other. Given everything we know about Katara, her goals, her values, her past lovesā¦absolutely everything points to Zuko being the true subject of her feelings.
Because letās be honest. The ending I just described is so much more powerful and so much more Katara than seeing her being relegated back to a doe-eyed love interest for Aang to kiss. It hardly even made senseāKatara played no role at all at the culmination of Aangās arc. She was relegated back to a love interest, rather than the powerful figure we saw fight alongside Zuko.
#zutara#katara#zuko#atla#anti kataang#canon critical#jet#haru#katara deserved better#aang critical#meta#analysis
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HEAD FULL OF MAKOHARU RFN!!!
HARU GIVING THE GOLD MEDAL TO MAKOTO IS CANON NOW š IT'S NOT A DRILL!!!
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#makoharu#im so in love with them#i believe in true love again#HARU WITH THAT LITTLE SMILE HES SO PROUD#HE KNOWS MAKOTO DESERVES IT#AND I AGREE THAT MAKOTO DESERVES ALL THE TROPHIES AND MEDAL#I am now thinking of that tweet about haru going pro so he can be a trophy husband#and not it's all coming true lmao#haru a proud trophy husband#next time he'll bring bigger and better prizes for makoto
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WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN PEOPLE GO OFF TO HATE HARU FOR SLEEPING AROUND IN THE FIRST SEASON
'AWWW POOR LEGOSHI HAS A SLUT AS LOVE INTEREST'- WHO THE FUCK IS SAYIN G THAT DID NO ONE LITERALLY READ ABT HARU SITUATION IM GOING TO KILL AND MAIM-
Haru is sOOO queen, bro honestly she puts up with a lot of legoshi bs too I mean he just disappear never tell her whats going on. aimless hate for her bcs of poor legoshi or other ships-
there aint no way, Haru is cool af bro. BROOOO
it might be because im a multishipper that i dont really get the whole 'oh she gets in the way of another ship' But man in this account its a stan Haru shes SO for real both manga and anime.
#saw a thread about people hating on haru bcs shes a woman since there is very much a character being slutty like pina and no one talk a thin#and love him#and im like 'no fucking way this is happening'#bro Haru is like one of the coolest characters in bea stars#shes so for fucking real and you try to hate on her for stupid reasons!?#brother i NEVER forget how she says she sleeps around bcs its the only moment she feel an equal to everyone man#like my god#nah Im always on Haru side shes soOOOO FOR FUCKING REAL#love her to bits#'oh but she isnt your favorite character?' and???#and?????????????????????????????#bro shes the coolest. just like nine#rant#god this one is long i felt so overwhelmed by anger#aint nooo fucking way brother get that misoginy away from here#also i cannot ever believe people actually want to get with legoshi- ok i can believe#I RESPECT THAT#and thats none of my business#my business on how i feel about legoshi tho#hes SUCH a loser gkdnaskfljansjk#love legoshi but by gods.#yes one of his main traits as a character is that he is such a fucking virgin#but holy shit#love him. hes such a loser <3#but haru supremacy#shes a queen with her loser of a boyfriend#and no this isnt she deserved better this is such power couple dlksmdkalmdkla#as character i love legoshi#would HATE his ass irl fjlksnakjfsdnla
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support club for characters with second lead syndrome but ESPECIALLY for high school romance manga series
#kdrama this kdrama that I WANT JUSTICE FOR KIKUCHI#he deserved SO much better#kikuchi is one of my top second leads of all time and ao haru ride isnāt even an ultimate fave#AND WAITING FOR SPRING#aya and towa should have ended up together that would have been so funny#and atohira from hibi chouchou#i really liked atohira tbh he was cool#sou says stuff
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i can acknowledge when a certain thing just isnt for me and i respect that but my god. p5 pisses me off so bad
#ewbie.txt#so many of the issues would be fixed if the characters were not in hs#and then akechi took me out of the game entirely sorry i cant stand him my god .#also all the girls are mistreated in one way or another... so like... okay...#p5 would be a good game if it was a good game#i miss when it was ryuji ann yusuke and ren.... makoto is ok and idm haru (<- she is so 2d which annoys tf outta me she deserved better)#but idk i dont like the direction the game took after haru showed up LOL
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THIS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULDāVE HAPPENED, INSTEAD OF THAT TONE DEAF SLAPSTICK NONSENSE.
May we all forget the worst scene after Shidoās palace ever happened, and replace with Ryuji actually getting the cheers and appreciation he deservesĀ š
#Persona#Persona 5#P5#Persona Spoilers#Persona 5 Spoilers#P5 Spoilers#Ren Amamiya#Akira Kurusu#Ryuji Sakamoto#Ann Takamaki#Yusuke Kitagawa#Makoto Niijima#Futaba Sakura#Haru Okumura#Morgana#JUSTICE FOR RYUJI#RYUJI LITERALLY DESERVES BETTER
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Is it me, or is it super odd how Katara's love interests who aren't Aang are treated?
Like, Haru was given that god awful mustache and beard for what?? There's no way a storyboarder looked at that and thought, "Hey, that looks great!" It feels like they made him less attractive on purpose so that he couldn't be considered for a potential romance with Katara.
(Which is also shallow. Kataang fans complain that Zutara fans don't want Katara with Aang because he's unattractive, except Bryke did the exact same thing with Haru. He stopped being a love interest as soon as he got that mustache. They even go out of their way to point that out when Katara says she never had a thing with Haru when she did)
And then there's Jet. I know everyone was portrayed terribly and EIP and that was the whole point of the joke, but Jet's death? Katara, Sokka, and Aang just don't react? After he died helping them? Sokka even jokes about it???
And I know they also joked about Yue's death (which also kinda sucked), but at least Sokka was emotional. At least he cared. Jet was just completely brushed aside as an afterthought. Of course Katara can't have any feelings about it (even if it's not necessarily grief, but unresolved anger or hurt or whatever).
It feels like these actions were deliberate to push Katara towards Aang. And that's so unfair, not only for Katara but also for Haru and Jet. These were two great characters who deserved to be treated well
#anti kataang#anti bryke#atla haru#atla jet#haru deserved better#jet deserved better#katara deserved better
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a source of angst, drama, and character study that ime is sorely underexplored is haru's willingness to forgive her Objectively Horrific father but not akechi. I have takes on it.
#ā¢ļø.txt#the overall take is 'trauma is complicated and sometimes its just like this'#but i do think the longer haru is removed from being an abused teenager the more she realizes#oh. that was actually that bad. it was even more horrific than i processed at the time.#i also think she gets a better understanding of just how exploitative and awful her father's business practices were#as she becomes more involved with the business herself + starts founding her own cafes#to be clear i dont think she forgives akechi or necessarily *should* so much as i think its interesting#i also just want her to have to confront the idea that a lot of people are glad her father died. and its for reasons#that are just as legitimate as the reasons she was devastated. because of the Complexity there#smth smth the haru vs akechi vs yusuke approach to having an awful father#haru's desperation to restore a dad she lost. akechi wanting to destroy shido at all costs while craving shreds of 'affection'.#yusuke going from blind rage at madarame to quietly believing that he did love him. it wasnt all a lie.#akechi finds both of their views very upsetting! because he's physically incapable of not taking things personally.#but part of it is also that. they have *some* reason to believe those things. their dads sucked and akechi does think they deserved to die!#but apparently okumura was a decent father once upon a time. apparently madarame wasnt always terrible.#akechi doesnt have that because he knows damn well theres nothing in shido's words. everyone knows what shido thought of akechi.#anyways. some day maybe ill write this!#roz hcs
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HI OMG i was not expecting these great replies and analysis when I made that joke post yesterday lol, I'm nodding and snapping at everything u guys are saying.
Even if i was making an offhand joke I kinda wanna clarify too what I meant (sorry for the upcoming long post). I feel like there's at least 2 main versions of Haru: the canon Haru (everything we get from her in-game), and fanon Haru (a version of her that fleshes out the agency aspect). Because like @hecksupremechips said, the Okumura palace storyline wasnt written very well. Haru being upset at her father's death because it robbed her of her ability to make her own decisions is a very popular fan interpretation (which i adore) but that's the issue: it's only a fan interpretation. The game itself never goes that far, which is upsetting to me because that wouldve been such good writing.
But instead what we get officially is her being kinda apologetic about her father. The biggest BRUH moment I had was when Joker was rallying the phantom thieves in the velvet room. When he visits Haru, she says she wasnt afraid to die because she can finally apologize to her father face-to-face, followed by her saying "Just as I betrayed my distorted father before, I will betray my boring former self now!" which was supposed to be empowering but ends up framing her decision to take control of her life as a betrayal of her father. Which is.... not great. You hit the nail on the head, the writers arent the best at writing abusive parental relationships lol.
It gets worse in the third semester because they show Haru's biggest wish is to have a good relationship with him again. Granted, all the phantom thieves' wishes are about wishing the bad stuff never happened to them in the first place. However, her storyline is supposed to be about making her own choices. Keeping it open-ended/ leaving her with options would've been more congruent with that storyline. But her Maruki wish is her choice. The writers revealed that her choice would be to reconcile with him, not cut him off. It's understandable a child would want to have a good relationship with their parent, but still like... I'm bothered by how it clashes with the 'make my own choices' storyline they went for.
It's frustrating to me because I know the writers did this to keep the phantom thieves consistent with each other. Again, all of them wished for the bad stuff to never happen. Haru just got the short end of the stick since the other thieves' wishes dont contradict their arcs as much as hers does. For example, Ann's wish that Shiho never got assaulted is completely consistent with why she joined the PT in the first place and unlocked her persona. She wants safety and happiness for herself and Shiho, her wish grants her that. Morgana since the beginning was hoping to be human (fearing that he was a monster), his wish granted him that. Futaba's story is about overcoming the trauma of losing her mother, her wish granted her that by never losing her mother in the first place. But Haru? Her story was supposed to be about exercising agency away from her father. Her wish was not about that. They made it seem like she actually just wanted him to be a good person and father to her again. Her agency doesnt take focus unfortunately. I'm giving the writers a bombastic side-eye for dropping the ball, they didn't try hard enough to make it work.
But that's CANON Haru. FANON Haru is a lot more like you guys have been saying, and she's much better. I REALLY like what @ingoodjesstĀ said about Haru being "both firm about justice and kind about injustice" since she can recognize more than anyone how Akechi did not have agencyš. Akechi in-canon was kinda in denial about whether he was a puppet or not. At some point in the third semester he insists that he has never lived his life controlled by anyone, and I hated how the game never pointed out that he WAS controlled by Shido AND yaldabaoth. Everyone with a brain knows a kid doesnt start killing under normal circumstances. I very badly wanted a proper Haru-Akechi interaction, even Yusuke since his circumstances are similar. I guess thats why fandom exists lol, picking up where the writers dropped things
Sorry for the ramblings!! My post was originally just a 'rip bozo' joke at Okumura (because good riddance), but I loved how this ended up making me reflect a lot on Haru's character and the way she's written in-game and by fans.
Persona 5 and to some extent the fandom tries to make us feel bad that Goro Akechi killed Haru's father but like that guy is basically the fast food equivalent of elon musk complete with space obsession, disrespecting his daughter, and workers abuse, and also his palace gave me a migraine so frankly im glad his ass is dead everyone say thank you akechi
#im super happy with the responses of this post it's such a gold mine for good takes on these characters jskdmsd#i'll never feel bad for what happened to okumura but i will always have sympathy for haru#he deserved what he got but she most certainly didnt#(she also deserved better writing. i dont wanna shade the writers but like...)#p5r analysis#long post
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Izin bertanya bagaimana cara menghadapi laki-laki yang tidak memberi kepastian tetapi masih menghubungi, apakah salah pesannya diabaikan tidak di respon sama sekali ?
Hi @mariberdamai Saya sering dapat konteks pertanyaan mirip ketika melakukan coaching 1on1 . Khususnya dari POV teman-teman perempuan yang kebingungan dalam membuat keputusan yang melibatkan orang lain, yang sebenarnya orang lain ini bukan siapa-siapa.
Konteksnya begini : mengapa keputusanmu harus menunggu keputusan/aksi dari orang lain? Mengapa kamu tidak membuat keputusan sendiri? Membuat kepastian sendiri? Kita bawa ke konteks masalah yang ditanyakan. Saat kamu bingung dengan kepastian dari seseorang, kenapa tidak kamu saja yang membuat kepastian? Langsung membuat keputusan : A. dikonfirmasi langsung ke yang bersangkutan apa maksudnya.
B. tinggalkan, delete, move on cari yang lain / kamu sibukkan diri dengan aktivitas positif yang lain.
Problem solved. Ini menjadi penting untuk kita sadari bersama-sama, mengapa keputusan kita harus menunggu orang lain membuat keputusan? Padahal orang itu bukan seseorang yang signifikan dalam hidup. Hanya orang yang ditakdirkan berjumpa, tapi membuat kita kebingungan. Lagian kita sudah sangat cukup dewasa, bukan lagi waktunya tebak-tebakan rasa.
Jangan sampai kita membuat diri sendiri terombang-ambing dalam ketidakpastian, karena menunggu kepastian orang lain. You deserve better :)
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Tokyo Debunker fic ideas (that I cannot get to until I clean my ask box)
MC's curse gets lifted, and the sages ring is removed, allowing the school to wipe her memories and send her back to her normal life. The ghouls aren't allowed to interact with her, but she still runs into the same guy constantly while she's out living her life, and she knows in her bones she knows him. She trusts him with her entire body and soul and she keeps being drawn to him even if he seems like he wants to avoid her- (Sho swears this will be the last time they hook up, that he's really just saying good bye and that she deserves better than some guy who can't be with her in the morning but he kisses her and forgets all his protests)
Same idea but with Kaito and instead if smut they just sit and talk at various cafes about things because MC keeps finding him where he's hiding and is overly determined to cheer him up. Still angsty and for some reason it seems sadder to me for some reason
Love triangle with MC, Haku, and Taiga where MC and Haku are sort of a thing and Taiga's pissed off because Haku is the traitor? And he knows Haku is just going to hurt MC but then he's not much better and he knows that but still. He wants to eat his own heart and have her in his arms, he'd do anything... (kind of like the idea of a time loop where Taiga and MC were together in the first loop but Haku swooped in before Taiga could get over himself this time and put the moves on MC... meanwhile MC likes the way Haku treats her and believes he's not so bad but is still a little in love with Taiga...)
Haru gets very drunk and talks about how much he loves everyone in his dorm and MC while Ren and MC try to get him home to Jabberwock.
I'm so tired /į - Ė -ć
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Miscellaneous SFW Jabberwock Member Head canons
A/N: I kind of wish this was longer..? I feel that this couldāve been better but.. Iāll probably over time think of more and just post again.
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!!Remember this is opinion, though much is inspired by certain things mentioned in the story!!
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Haru Sagara -
-Iād think that if youāre dating heād love the thought that you both are peekabooās parents. Often when heās cooing to Peekaboo he will refer to you as mommy/daddy.
-He secretly will deliberately get messy after one time you picked sticks, and leaves out of his hair and wiped his face that had smudges of mud on it.
-He has chubby cheeks.
-A MASSSSIIIIIVE hypocrite. If he finds out you didnāt eat the way you should? Heās upset. Youāre not taking care of yourself in general? He WILL hound you to do so while giving praises as to why you should and how you deserve it.
-Definitely does the thing where he taps one shoulder then appears at the other.
-Probably eats soft food or anything that can be quickly eaten. Itās his favorite since if heās eating it he can save some time and still eat at least a bit. Maybe his favorite is instant mashed potatoes.
-I think he might be neurodivergent, or at the least struggles a little with social cues. (Though he really tries his best!)
Towa Otonashi-
-He wanders out of jabberwock just to see you, even though he shooooould be working.
-Since he follows Haru, I like to think he picks up some of his mannerisms. (Never is it of benefit to Haru, if only Towa would pick up some slack..)
-Probably accidentally caused a small explosion in the Jabberwock dorms.
-I also think on top of the weather changing when heās upset, when heās told no to something he will puff his cheeks up and hold his breath until the person(Haru) changes their mind.
-Probably sleep walks
-I think heās neurodivergent
Ren Shiranami-
-Heās afraid to close his eyes while heās in the shower because heās afraid that calamari for whatever reason could show up. (even though the water isnāt salt water)
-Had a point in his life where he was addicted to Tetris.
-He HATES the sound of people popping their joints.
-I feel like heād have a small stutter, nothing too serious that itād really impact his life but it flares up every so often in a conversation.
-Bounces his leg when he sits
-He loves taking and having pictures of you to look back on, even if you think itās an āuglyā photo. He loves them all. (he wonāt admit it. Heāll lie to cover up)
-Like Towa, I also think Ren is neurodivergent
#tokyo debunker towa#tokyo debunker#tkdb#tokyo debunker haru#tokyo debunker ren#towa otonashi#haru sagara#ren shiranami#headcanon#tokyo debunker x reader#tkdb x reader
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OG Trio Groupchat
(Baji, Mikey, Sanzu)
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[Mikey created a new group chat]
[Mikey added Haruchiyo Sanzu and Baji Keisuke]
Baji: Wahts tis?
Sanzu: pls learn to spell istg
Mikey: I made a gc for us cuz we barely have to do anything with each other since we made toman
Baji: smard, didnt thing yu would do smth like tis
Sanzu: That really was a good idea, Mikey
Sanzu: And you better do something about your spelling before I cut your throat, Baji
Mikey: yo chill, we can still understand him
Baji: ye, it isnt even tat bad
Baji: besid I cant now how to spel if no body tels me
Sanzu: what about this Chifuyu guy? wasn't he going to teach you?
Mikey: which Chifuyu guy?
Baji: HOW DO YU EVEN NOW ABOUT HIM
Sanzu: ... Let's forget that I mentioned him
Mikey: were you stalking Baji again, Sanzu?
Sanzu: definitely not, idk what you're talking about
Baji: Then how do yu now about Chifuyu?
[Sanzu went offline]
Baji: sus
Mikey: I'm gonna talk to him later
[a few days later]
Baji: MIKEY TEEL SANZU TO STOP STALKING ME
Mikey: Sanzu, what the fck are you doing?
Sanzu: I'm trying to figure out more about this Chifuyu guy so I can tell him to teach Baji to spell better and my first step was to follow Baji around
Sanzu: Also I was bored
Baji: NO REASON TO FOLOW ME AROUND
Baji: ALSO I CAN SE YOU BEHIND THAT KORNER
Sanzu: shit
[Sanzu went offline]
Mikey: I bet he ran away?
Baji: yea I cant se him any more
Mikey: Haruuuuu, come back online and explain yourselfff
Baji: yeeee listen to himmm
Baji: ayoo I can se yu running Haruuu
Mikey: stop running and answer us!! Haru!!
Baji: now hes gone, I cant se him any more
Sanzu: Guys stop spamming me
Baji: only if yu neva stalk me again
Mikey: Isn't stalking me enough
Baji: yes stalk him instead of me!!
Sanzu: is that a message with no spelling mistakes I see there
Sanzu: omg it really happened
Sanzu: Baji can write
Mikey: Baji, we're proud of you
Sanzu: on second thought it probably wasn't even him who wrote that
Baji: WHY R YU SO MEAN TO ME
Sanzu: BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID
Sanzu: the only thing about you I admire is your hair
Mikey: wait really? You like his hair?
Sanzu: yeah it's so long and beautiful and smooth
Baji: I neva though yu could say somethink nice about me
Sanzu: I didn't say anything nice about you, but your hair
Mikey: holy flip that was mean asf
Baji: imma cry
Sanzu: idc, as long you fcking learn to spell
Baji: at last I dont stallk people in my fretime you FREACK
Sanzu: before you try to insult me again, DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR SPELLING
Mikey: how are you two even friends??
Baji: no clue, this freack only insults me all the time!!
Sanzu: you don't deserve compliments
Mikey: I didn't even know you could be this mean
Mikey: you're always so nice to me
Baji: CUZ HE IS A FREACK
Sanzu: I am not a freack, you dumbass!!!
Mikey: btw it's spelled frek Baji
Sanzu: ...
Sanzu: I am disappointed
[Sanzu went offline]
Baji: huh??
Mikey: huh??
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Thoughts for The Montkraken Episode
so, I just finished the chapter andā¦ wow I have a lot to say. I took screen shots for every part I wanted to talk about and I think this rant will be SUPERRRR long so bear with me. Tumblr wonāt let me add screenshots so when I have better service Iāll edit the post to add them. These paragraphs are theories and side notes that I wrote after reading a certain section so youāre gonna see my thought process throughout the story. As always, spoilers ahead so I recommend skipping this if you havenāt read it already.
Alright so I was once a hater of this ship BUTā¦ the Shobaru shippers may have a point in this guys š. LIKE.. I HAVE THE SCREENSHOT OF SUBARU BLUSHING UHHH. That is not a heterosexual stare feller š¤Øā¦
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AHHHHHHH THE FROSTHEIM DUO ARE BACKKKKK!!! I missed them so so much theyāre so silly and deserve the best. Honestly the only two I trust in this school cause I CANT. I literally suspect anyone but them, but Imma be so disappointed if either of them are hiding something. Iāll be sad, but like Iāll help š. I was actually so sad when the MC mentioned being the reason they could be in danger like GIRLLLLL DONT SAY THAT PLEASEEEEE. ITS LIKE THE ANGST WITH ADEUCE AND YUU LIKE STAWPOPP. Also when the Vagastorm kids were like āaw yeah Mido wouldnāt lie like thatā it makes me happy that people can at least trust him enough to be honest and idk I found that kinda sweet :3. Weāre also getting a bit of a timeline, like the One-Eyed Sleeping Beauty Murder being BEFORE the clash (sorry if this was already mentioned I donāt really remember stuff from the past chapters) which couldāve been a trigger.
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Also, I feel like theyāre trying to tell us that Jiro is Zenjiās brother because when he had that little laugh about the MC being scared of bodies, he said too. When you click the ātoo?ā option, he just says that he isnāt the one afraid. Itās not Yuri as well cause heās literally a doctor that is in the same room when autopsies are in session. Whatever the case, I assume he was referencing to Zenji, though it being a blurry memory. Little theory tho.
OK SO THIS IS JUST SO FUNNY TO ME. In Chapter 9ās title it says, āGirl Learns Shocking Truth About Monsterā. I like to think the shocking truth was the fact he didnāt shower for 3 days š. CAUSE THATS THE PART SHE SOUNDS MOST SHOCKED. Idk that part was silly to me. THEYāRE OUTFITS FOR THEIR DORM IS SOOOOOO PRETTY. They ate I fear, a bit more than the other dorms. Also side note, they dropped A LOT of info with just how they word things. For example, Yuri saying āJiro, you are well aware that I will not be associated with those germs AGAIN.ā Soooo Yuri was in Frostheim? I donāt doubt it bc thereās another line that says āIād rather not recall how bitterly cold that place isā which can MEAN TWO THINGS. Iām super sure that theyāre implying that yeah, he was, but then something happened blah blah blah.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH HYDE AND DANTE??? Like ok bitches, spill your shot to us too donāt be shy. So, confirmed by them, Dante and Hyde used to go to school in Darkwick (which I assume the rest of the teachers are too). That explains their back and forth. WHAT REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE WERE THESE LINES.
Hyde: āā¦You really are a softie, Dan-Dan.ā (Haha Dan- Dan)
Dante: āIt would seem that way to someone as cold as you.ā (???) āā¦There are lines that shouldnāt be crossed, Hyde.ā
Hyde: āā¦Iāll keep that in mind.ā
WHATTTTT. WHAT ARE THE LINES. GO IN DETAIL ARGHHHHH. This gives us more info on the character individually too. Dante describes Hyde as coldā¦ DANTE. So, it was obvious that this whole happy go lucky attitude was fake, but I expected to be more like Haruās kind of attitude not like that yk?? now I know how much of a cash grab this game is, but I really hope they arenāt going to stretch the story out too long to the point where you have to P2W cause I havenāt paid a cent and I donāt plan to. I still want to learn more about them and stuff so :(. On the topic of Dante, there was a small flashback where I missed a word in the sentence that Dante said while talking with Alan. āIām the man you supposedly killed.ā Supposedly?? Now, I didnāt my catch this in my first run, but now itās like wdym supposedly?? Shouldnāt you know? This is giving hella Jiro vibes and honestly, Iām getting sick and tired of these characters having a bad memory.
SPEAKING OF JIRO- he seems to have problems remembering things and they come back to him in the very weird moments (honestly a kin moment). I would like the think that heās just suffering from the damages he had to go through from the clash. His relationship with Yuri is soā¦ sad to me. Yuri seems to doubt him a little bit and I feel like he sees him as just a specimen, not much of a friend. Meanwhile, Jiro smiles a lot to Yuri and listens to him like a master, like thatās what heās supposed to do. NOT AGAINST HIS OWN WILL DONT GET ME WRONG. Heās just so neutral about it it makes me a bit like awwww :(. Theyāre cute tho idrc.
Ok moving on to Haku and Tohma. (Ok at this point Iām getting nervous cause why are we seeing so many characters now. Thatās probably just a coincidence). OK THESE TWO HAVE GOT IT GOING. Like thereās tension when you get their chat in the campus but this is like woahhhhā¦ Also I donāt like how Tohma says āour wheelhouse? I see..ā it makes me think heās like implying āso you think youāre a part of them now?ā IDK THATS JUST MY LITTLE STRETCH. Also poor Zenji, heās like āaw yeah I died in vain lolā LIKE OUCH.
Nicholas. I DO NOT LIKE HIM. I REPEAT. I DO NOT LIKE HIM FOR A MINUTE OF A SECOND. The only staff I like are the cats, the grocer guy, and MAYBE Dante. LIKE HES SOā¦ NORMAL?? LIKE THEREāS SOMETHING WEIRD GOING ON IK THERE IS. When MC says āI canāt believe Professor Nicolas would do something like thatā I DO š”šāāļø. I am in full support of Yuri finding crimes against this guy.
Also, little other side note, I just realized that Yuri and Jiro have matching earring in opposite ears. Itās so cute.
Ok I might have to go back to the beginning and see what the āgoat like anomalyā Jiro is talking about when he mentions the prophecy, cause I said āā¦ the chancellor is a goat??ā BUT ANYWAYS. Speaking of the prophecy, Iāll jot it down.
āThe whisper of the new moon shall lead the champion to the academy on the solitary island. So long as the champion resides there, the world shall be sheltered from profound tragedy.ā
Stating the obvious here, but this is most likely referencing to the last cutscenes we get when we choose our characters. Iāve checked the cutscenes again and thereās no visible moon, meaning it could correlate to the ānew moonā portion. (Search up new moon to see what I mean). Assuming Solitary island means death, that would also help with the theory. So, whoever we chose in the beginning might just be the person who won the Laurel Crown.Honestly, this is just a silly little Drabble for a theory and VERY vague. Maybe the champion resides in the events of the past that we still donāt know about but this kinda helps?? Idk Iām just putting what I think at the moment. Iāll probably reread the game so I can get a better timeline. Also, Yuriās rant about demon particlesā¦ doesnāt exactly sit right with me. Were they chosen to be resilient or was it just a birth thing?? Idk but I feel like a lot is missing from his theory. I mean, weāre using human logic to a supernatural cause so I donāt think pacts acting as allergies would work. If theyāre not chosen, could it be that the ghouls can make pacts with more than one demon? I wanna see what happens if that was the case. Please comment if I missed something š.
Ok Towa appeared. (Why are we seeing so many characters I donāt like this) and we went back to that treeā¦ WHAT IS THAT TREE?? And what the hell do you mean the fruit grew? What is that fruit supposed to be? An anomaly going to birth?? Is it supposed to represent the houses?? Motivation?? It seems so weird to me cause we just got introduced to that tree last episode. Sighs.
OK REN AND RITSU. WHAT IS GOING ON. I GUESS SINCE THIS IS THE LADT CHAPTER FOR INTRODUCING CHARACTERS BUT LIKE ā¦ STOP. I feel like something is going to happen with the MC pls š. Anyway, those two talking about ramen is so cute please donāt ever change you virgin and lizard looking freak š«¶( with love of course). GROCER GUYYYYYYY. YIPPEE :3!! I love that the cat is the owner and not the human lmao.
Also I will always be a MC defender cause she is so relatable. āWhy are hospitals so creepy at night?ā GIRL IKKKKKK. Idc what yāall say, the fact that sheās normal is keeping me sane from these freaky deaky events. ILOVE NORMAL CHARACTERS! LIKE MATSUDA FROM DEATH NOTE OR THAT ONE GUY FROM MASHELE. Anyways, I love her little comments and everything sheās so silly. Idrc if she doesnāt have much of a backbone cause honestly, sheās surrounded by danger so the best she should do is listen to the people that are constantly surrounded by it.
ALSO NEW THING. (Well idk if itās new but yeah).
mention of a Dionysia Breakout. <āā Idk what that is, but it sounds like a little more. I love little details and slip ups thanks characters <3!!
HA! HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA! I WIN NICOLAS š!!! YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. AND I WILL FIND IT TRUST YOU WILL BE DELT WITH. I WILL KNOW THE PRIOR PAST >:(!! Also, Moby is being soooo annoying tbh. More character descriptions to add: competitive as a teacher. NO ONE WILL MAKE YOU HATE YOU JIRO ā¼ļøā¼ļøā¼ļø HES SO SWEET He literally asks if weāre scared and says we can hang back awwww. Though he doesnāt understand much, he can use logic and he can at least understand how we feel. Itās a nice sentiment :)!
I canāt take the transformation seriously Iām sorry. Iām still impressed by Yuriās deductive skills and the transformation just sounded like he was constipated.
THE WHOLE BATTLE SCENE WAS EPIC!! MC HESITATING BECAUSE OF LEOS WORDS BUT STILL PUSHING FORWARD. YURI GETTING FLUSTERED. JIRO SMILING AND TRUSTING YURIāS ORDERS. THE FUNNY EXCHANGE ABOUT MUSCLE WHEN THEY WERE CARRYING THE POD. Those annoying ass pussy sticks we call Darkwick students š”. JIRO LOOKING BADASS AFTER THE SHOT. URGHHHH I LOVE THIS CHAPTER.
HARU AND PEEKABOOOOO!! AHHHHH IM SO HAPPY I SEE THEM AGAIN!! Iām so glad heās going to Hyde too cause Iām not ready. Alsoā¦ the mermaid thing is so weird. For the Montkraken Mermaid, they seem to refer to it as āitā or āthat mermaidā, but when they speak of the second mermaid, they use personal pronouns like āhe /himā. Haruās expression as well when he heard someone was abusing mermaid fleshā¦ itās a new one with a little crease under his eye. Itās such a sad face like, did he know this mermaid personally or was this fear?? Either way, I wanna meet him cause the other one was so pretty.
ā¦You guys know the āI see who you areā¦ you are my enemyā sound thatās on TikTok or reels or wtv? YEAH THATS SONG WAS PLAYING IN MY HEAD WHEN HYDE SAID WE HAD TO DO A SPEECH. HYDE IM IN YOUR WALLS. URGHHHH I HATE HIMMMMM. Call to action my ass IK either Taiga or Leo are gonna get their asses out of the door after the speech. OR BOTH. Iām starting to tweak.
NOOOOO THE SPEECH IS THE NEXT CHAPTER?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I feel so bad for Zenjiā¦ like Iām so deadass. Dude he sounds so sad about how heās dead itās so.. URGHHHH. ALSO I CALLED IT. THEY ARE BROTHERS. AHAHHAHA!! Well it was kinda obvious cause everyone thought it too but WOMP WOMP. Also I love his real name, Taro Kirisaki. Itās pretty :)!! But these lines killed me
āand though I have taken my final blow, my brotherly heart canāt help but worry for my kin. ā¦ Not that he has any idea Iām still around.ā YEOUCH?? I DIDNT COME TO CRY BROā¦
Iām tweaking out because of this speech bro. Iām gonna choose the corniest stuff and hope for the best. āI feel bad please stop for me š„ŗā headass.
Taiga is officially my enemy as well. I called that shit about him leaving URGH. WHAT A FLIBBERTYJIBBET!! His outfit eats tho so it balances out. LIKE DAMNNNN. HE LOOKS SO GOOD.
DOUBLE?? TRIPLE??? QUINTUPLE???? HELL I MIGHT BECOME A GHOUL TO GET THAT MONEY GOLLY ššš!! CAUSE IN THIS ECONOMY??Also thanks Jin you a real one twin. Bouta split this cash with my wife and Iāll send you a wedding invite.
EDWARD. ED PLEASE. STOP PUTTING ME IN THE SPOTLIGHTā¦ well itās out now so woopy!! I really wonder what the others have to say about that cause they just gave really vague surprised reactions. Well, Ritsu documented it. I love that little guy please donāt ever change you silly.
NUMBER ONE CORNELIUS HATER IDC. Unless I know your intentions I DONT CAREEEEE. YOU ARE AN OPP IT IS ON SIGHT WITH YOU. SAME WITH YOU NICOLAS!! āI didnāt know whether to tell you or not Iām sowwy š„ŗā CHUPA MI PITO HOE š”.
ā¦ youāre telling me I didnāt have to do that awful speech because DANTE AGREED?? IM DONE. IM WHOOPING EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND AURING THE PLACE OUT. FIRST ONES OUT ARE HYDE FOR NOT TELLING ME, NICOLAS, AND CORNELIUS. ARGHHHHHHH. Also, dude, who is that Janitor guy like seriously.
ROMEO??? AND HYDE???? WHAT IS THIS ABOUT BUTTERCUP?? Wdym worked for him?? What is going onā¦ SPECIAL MISSION??? SHO??? OH NAW. I CANT TRUST NOBODY ANYMORE š
Towa crying :(. What does the fruit shrinking have to do with it now?? Iām so confused.
ALRIGHT IF YOU MADE IT TO THE END WOW YOU HAVE DEDICATION. Yeah this is my personal yap session to this chapter and itās so URGH. Iām so excited to see the next chapter and I hope we get to see more and more. Now with the Gala in place, we can finally start WORKING. Based on the timeline, we have about ā¦ 8 months left?? So hopefully, for MCās sake, she gets cured. BYE BYE UNTIL NEXT EPISODE!!
#tokyo debunker#tokyo debunker mc#tokyo debunker spoilers#montkraken#Episode 7#spoilers#theories#yapping#omfg#this insane#Darkwick#Alan Mido#Jiro Kirisaki#tohma ishibashi#kaito fuji#lucas errant#jin kamurai#leo kurosagi#shohei haizono#subaru kagami#shobaru#ritsu shinjo#zenji kotodama#edward hart#tdb#lyca colt#towa otonashi#haru sagara#taiga hoshibami
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